micheal chucks a fascist outrage

Kari-Hans KommonenDear Michel. Is this Facebook group about P2P any more, or is it about Left, Culture Wars, or something else? I again suggest that this kind of discussion should move to some other forum.

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Michel BauwensAuthorAdminKari-Hans Kommonen : I respect your feelings and opinions, but it is impossible for a p2p/commons forum not to address what constitutes the greatest dangers for its development. I respectfully disagree and this forum will retain its following focus: 1)… See more
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Kari-Hans KommonenMichel Bauwens respecfully, point 4 and your perception of what you call woke is not the form of fascism that most threatens the development of human equality, please e.g. observe events in Ukraine, and in my opinion, you are dominating that opinion on… See more
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Gerhard JungKari-Hans Kommonen Much of what Michel Bauwens is trying to address here, I would call quixotic.
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Lucy WillsGerhard Jung at best. I also had considered for a while that such things were being posted for conversation or debate but that doesn’t seem to be the case. Each time I do this I am not engaged with properly but just faced with the same argument over and over again. Sigh.
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Gus DiZeregaKari-Hans Kommonen I dislike the left woke about as much as anyone alive and have been cancelled by them on several occasions, and in all honesty, I agree with you.
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Kari-Hans KommonenMichel, I want to add that I am writing these comments because I do respect and value the work you have done over the years and still do for furthering the P2P and commons matters, but ever since you experienced the cancel events, which understandably … See more
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Lorraine LeeCertainly the ongoing and increasingly aggressive redpilling of Bauwens has ruined the P2P brand for me. I regret ever having been enthusiastic about it. Same for the free culture movement and Nina Paley. One is judged by the company one keeps, and I a… See more
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Dean SayersMichel is right. I have repeatedly seen people driven out of charitable organizations due to the very “woke fascism” cited. I think that is pretty germane to any discussion of the commons.Kari-Hans Kommonen, if this were instead a thread complaining a… See more
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Roy HanflingOlivier Lejade Is “love it or leave it” part of P2P practice?
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Roy HanflingKari-Hans Kommonen I sometimes call it “Michels forum” humorouslyIf this forum is owned by one person, it’s NOT a P2P forum, is it?… See more
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Kari-Hans KommonenRoy Hanfling I have a lot of respect for Michel’s long curatorship in this forum, and it has for a long time been a very helpful resource. Lately sadly less so, as the focus has become something else.
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Roy HanflingKari-Hans Kommonen same 🙂I think that an advantage of working from a P2P perspective is that we only need to communicate with honesty and integrity to each other.… See more
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Roy HanflingOlivier Lejade as a peer, I reserve the right to speak my truth, you always have the option of ignoring me?what specifically do you want to mark as “debated to death”
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Michel BauwensAuthorAdminKari-Hans Kommonen : I can’t find your other thread on sex being a spectrum (the famous 1% ‘in between’ the 99%). You may like this:”Biological sex is either male or female. Contrary to what is commonly believed, sex is defined not by chromosomes or … See moreThe End of Gender by Debra SohJOSEPHBLACKMAN.MEDIUM.COMThe End of Gender by Debra SohThe End of Gender by Debra Soh
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Michel BauwensAuthorAdminhere is another discussion, https://whyevolutionistrue.com/…/the-binary-nature-of…/The binary nature of sex: a column by Deborah SohWHYEVOLUTIONISTRUE.COMThe binary nature of sex: a column by Deborah SohThe binary nature of sex: a column by Deborah Soh
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Roy HanflingOliver blocked me 🙂I also wanted to point out that… See more
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Roy Hanflingonce again, I’m not raging or trying to control other’s behavioursJust saying what I see and think, as a peerand… See more
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Michel BauwensAuthorAdminRoy Hanfling : Your language is very revealing, calling this community ‘customers’, but if you are indeed serious about it, I’d be happy to send you my bank account <g>. 3,000 new members to be precise, and the people that are filtered out, as I explained, are the people with zero connections; I don’t know who they are nor what they think, so as usual, you let your fantasies getting ahead of the facts. Careful reading seems a prerequisite, and as they used to say to children, roll your tongue seven times before you say something.
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Roy HanflingMichel Bauwens yes, I chose that word ‘customers’ carefully as a way of understanding the dynamics of “your” group 🙂Did you read the thread?There are lots in this group that is informative and interesting, content and process.… See more
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Roy HanflingMichel Bauwens how many posts did you delete from this thread?
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Roy HanflingMichel Bauwens from above”Roy HanflingKari-Hans Kommonen I sometimes call it “Michels forum” humorously… See more
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Roy HanflingMichel Bauwens I’m also trying to avoid Ad hominem attacks, you have done nothing to attack 🙂I am interested in understanding the process
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Roy HanflingMichel Bauwens and then you prove your intent by deleting posts you don’t like and restricting my posts 🙂I guess some of my questions have been answered
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Lucy WillsWhile your own principles and perspective is very clear, there are so many fallacies and distorted projections about those of other people in this argument. I have addressed many of these in previous posts and don’t have the capacity or time to addres… See more
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Ray HarrisLucy Wills Whilst democracy means rule by the people, one of the founding principles is that when it comes to making a decision there is a vote and the majority wins. In this sense centring the minority cannot be democratic.And whilst it is true that… See more
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Stephanie RearickYes to a new political party! Yes to crossing these divides. Yes to describing a more beautiful world and rejecting all these forms of dominance and control. I have seen these forces tear apart really good work, really good initiatives and organization… See more
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Dupré Jean-MarcWoke up…
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Luis MarianoNão sei do que se trata o tópico…. a tradução não está disponível, deve ser uma opção de configuração do autor do tópico, será? heheh Mas mudando assunto, quero dar os parabéns
ao povo americano aqui, vejo como grande avanço este acontecimento….May be an image of 2 people and people standing
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Alex PfeifferIndeed. The problem with some communities like p2p that are attempting meaningful progress is that progress goals often attract people who are rather full of themselves and their own value. If they’re really full of themselves, they’re woke…. and … See moreExplaining Jokes to Idiots: Oscars Edition | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)YOUTUBE.COMExplaining Jokes to Idiots: Oscars Edition | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)Explaining Jokes to Idiots: Oscars Edition | Real Time with Bill Maher (HBO)
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Michael CroftMichel, thanks for your thoughts and I concur with many of them – not all. May I suggest that had you written this as ‘Why the current trajectory of the culture wars will wipe out p2p’, and focused on the obvious detriments to p2p (and ultimately the… See more
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Michel BauwensAuthorAdminMichael Croft : yes, the neo-racialism and intersectional ranking has been detrimental to p2p and the commons, but less so than for the left in general. The reason is that p2p and the commons depend on contributory dynamics, which are antithetical to p… See more
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Michael CroftWell why didn’t you say so earlier 😉
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